Saturday Morning Hangover: What does Man City mean to Milan

By: Gianfranco | September 6th, 2008

The guy that came up with this scheduling nightmare of an International break only one week after the start of Serie A is a moron, he we are relishing the return of our beloved league and they take it away from us and instead ask us to watch Italy v. Cyprus or England v. Andorra. Not exactly world class matchups, but will be viewed nonetheless. The one good thing that comes from the International break is it gives me a minute to reflect and discuss on the Man City/Dubai issue which as much I want to forget it I can’t stop talking about with tifosi, friends, and even my pops.

My prominent concern is linked directly to my beloved Rossoneri, who as a club are certainly not a poor, but we are certainly not infinitely bank rolled like some of the other clubs in the world. Milan have always been able to compete in the open market and their strong funds and amazing legacy and history has and will always be a selling points for players of sincere motives. Now enter a club like Man City who lacks any real history and legacy, and also lacks the star power to make a superstar player feel at home but also supported on the pitch. We all know how important having a world class player like Kaka can be, but it is hard to argue that Kaka can carry a squad alone, he needs solid teammates to help him reach the highest levels. A team is more than a collection of a star or two and some role players see LA Galaxy for a look at failure with this recipe.

Move forward now to Robinho, who has been vilified for his new found allegiance with the Dubai Conglomerate of Man City. It is not hard to fault Robinho for taking the cash and a step down in play; it seems like the easy way out for a player who has a ton of talent and even more potential. He went from competing for the CL and La Liga title, to a possible 5th place finish and no silverware in the EPL. But if the conglomerate coupled with the effort of Mark Hughes can build around Robinho, Jo, and Elano and continue to make smart purchase and non-impulsive ones it won’t be long before this team is competing for silverware. But if the conglomerate takes a path of impulsive shopping leaving the team’s well being by the curb and buying players for the sake of the name this team will prove very quickly that they are a flash in the pan and unable to really compete leaving their owners embarrassed and probably quick to get bored.

Now until this potential failure or possible success happens, teams in the EPL and across Europe will have to contend with the new kid on the block with the big checkbook. It only took minutes for the whiniest manager on Earth, Rafa Benitez, to open his big mouth and say that Man City is bad for competition and that they are overinflating prices. First of all Rafa is scared that he will lose his precious CL spot and their perennial 3-4 place finish will not happen and he will lose his job, good riddance. But his claim of inflation of prices is baseless, and not exposing the fact that inflation has begun long before these Dubai boys opened their wallets, heck even Rafa is guilty.

Just these past few transfer windows, both Chelsea and ‘Pool are the prime example of smart shopping in Deco and Torres, and then overinflating players like Barry, Keane, and Robinho with only of them being moved with Keane going to Anfield. Inflation of player’s values is here to stay and as long as Roman Abramovich can pay top dollar for Kaka he will, and as long as Calderon has a man crush on CRon he will throw money around until he gets his man. The real issue is the big boys are scared now because Man City, even if they don’t get the player, will certainly be in the mix raising the price of the player and forcing the big boys to spend bigger to get their targets.

So where does that leave the second tier of shoppers like Barca, Inter, Juve, ManU and our beloved Milan. It basically forces these clubs to practice fiscal responsibility but also to sell if the time is appropriate and the money is right. I always remember when Juve sold Zidane to Madrid, think about the intelligence behind that move and where and what it left Juve with. Sure Zidane found success at Real, but Juventus built a squad that is still challenging for the Scudetto today while Zidane has retired.

Just this summer, Milan fought Man City for the signing of Ronaldinho, and in the end Dinho came to the San Siro, despite a pay cut, partly based on history and the desire to play with Brazilian Ex-Pats in Kaka, Pato, and Emerson. Fast forward to the transfer window ’09 with Man City owned by the some of the richest men in the world and featuring the likes of Robinho, Jo and Elano, and possibly the addition of some other Brazilians from the winter transfer window. Does Dinho still choose Milan? Does Man City become more attractive? Does Ronaldinho have a burning desire to build his own legacy? These are all questions that race through my mind and make me wonder where it would leave a team like Milan at the bargaining table. I guess next year will help us decide that, but until then we can speculate.

Staying in the summer transfer window of ’09, if those Dubai boys send over a blank check for Dinho, who may have regained form, do we sell. I say yes! Smartest one year investment on Earth and you are selling a guy who is nearing thirty in the same vain as Juve’s Zidane deal. If that same blank check arrives with Kaka’s names on it what do you do? I guess this season will go a long way in answering that question.

As you can see this issue is going to snowball for better or for worse and is way too important in the football to landscape to not recognize and discuss. So how long before Mr. Abramovich and Ze Russians start an all out war with new boys from Dubai?



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  • MAD |  September 6th, 2008 at 9:21 am

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    Yes, that used to be Milan, but it was Milan without selling. It was Milan with Berlusconi picking up the tab.

    In my opinion, Milan is in the somewhat strange territory of having to sell first to buy now, something that Inter is trying to implement as well. With the new megabucks breed its hard to be simply wealthy football presidents.

    Next season, for both Inter and Milan, I think that a serious trimming of the roster- Inter will probably let 3 or for contracts run out, saving us millions, I am not sure about Milan’s contracts– before there is any thought of picking up new players.

    This might be harder on Milan since I think that Milan tends to hang on to players too long out of sentiment. Not that sentiment is a bad thing, but I think that it makes business harder.

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  • shehan |  September 6th, 2008 at 9:40 am

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    the thought of even selling kaka’ for no matter what is disgusting to me. (that is shehans random fact of the day)

    after all hes done for us, staying with us through thick and think, his principles of loyalty are equal to that of ours. his motivation is equal to ours. he is equal to us, he deserves to have milan and we deserve to have kaka’. he is part of this team and as berlusconi said, even for a ‘blank check’ he will never sell kaka’. thats how it should be, because kaka’ never left us even when he [technically] had a blank check on the table. it is loyalty. it is love.

    you cannot compare us to juve, a club that is run like a business. their foreigners are so polarized in quality that you cannot make an adequate comparison to ours. trezeguet and nedved are their best foreigners, the rest are just squad players.

    for us? pato, kaka’, ronaldinho, seedorf, flamini can and would walk into the starting XI of any team.

    juventus’ youth system isnt that efficient, theyve sold their best youth players (ie, nocerino; i know there are more, alessio will tell you, the juventini hate secco, but i cant think of more right now). they’ve sacrificed their youth for stars [in the making] like amauri etc.

    your youth either have a talent or they dont, if they dont, you cannot force them to become quality. i will get crucified for saying this, but as much i would love to see paloschi scoring goals for us in the future, as of now he is not much to talk about. yes hes scored some great goals for us, but hes also missed quite a number of sitters too. i think all of us were guilty in exaggerating his CURRENT level of ability. but we’ll wait and see how he does and parma, i sincerely hope he proves me wrong and becomes a fruitful player for us in the future. i actually have more hope to see darmian have a good season.

    and we never really fought for ronaldinho at all, if the management was worried about man.city, they wouldve bid higher to barca, and they wouldve offered more money to ronaldinho. we were not worried by man.city then, and we will not be worried about man.city now.

    you cannot buy class, you cannot buy prestige, you cannot buy respect. all of those have to be earned. as jennifer lopez said, love dont cost a thing, its not money that drives footballers of kaka’ qualities, its the absolute pure motivation to win and to play football. and if you can do that with a club with the same parallel philosophy, then high 5 to you and your club and go do what you do best; shoot for victory, shoot for glory.

    forza milan

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  • gianfranco |  September 6th, 2008 at 11:16 am

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    shehan i respect and believe everything you say but to think that players are glitz and glamored by cash as well is naive…

    but yourself in their shoes, woulndt you want to be set for life? Wouldnt you want you and your family taken care of, it may be that Kaka is driven by presitge but much like Dinho, what does a man that has done all really need going forward.

    Like I said I believe and agree with everything you said but the human element cant be denied.

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  • shehan |  September 6th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

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    gian, i guess that goes into the philosophy of human psychology. and for me, i always try to keep it a positive perspective, believing in honor and dignity. but you definitely are right that i am being slightly naive about it; but its the belief that there will always be some good left in this world no matter what madness is occurring, it always paves way for hope.

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  • A |  September 6th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

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    Gianfranco, those qualities you describe in Juve have diddly to do with selling Zidane 7 years ago. Juve had been floated on the stock market and as such, the most important thing for them is to balance the books. Selling a player like Zidane for great money at his peak is important for them. And ever since, they have been very frugal in the transfer market. Berlusconi has also compelled Milan to do much the same, i.e. keep losses to a minimum. But I want good football and good football requires good footballers. I couldn’t careless what that means for Berlusconi’s bank account. The day Milan offer me free shares in the company is the day I start caring too much for their finances. In the meantime, let’s keep the likes of Kaka who don’t come around everyday and not sell them for two or three lesser players.

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  • A |  September 6th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

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    Milan’s only problem is that they have a manager and administration who are hung up on ‘experience’(especially in defense) and have little appreciation of what young legs can offer. This is either a result of their ‘family’ attitude or vice versa, in which case which probably just have to live with it. It does however compromise what could be a fantastic team into inconsistency.

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  • Gianfranco |  September 6th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

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    A, i think you are very right about the experience issue, but what once was a team that blended both experience and youth, we seemed to have lost our way when it comes to that notion.

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  • Alo |  September 7th, 2008 at 12:48 am

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    Abu Dhabi, not Dubai, Gianfranco

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  • Gianfranco |  September 7th, 2008 at 2:35 am

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    Courtesy of Channel 4…

    Milan legend Leonardo warns Alexandre Pato he’ll never break into the first team unless he works hard in every training session.

    The 18-year-old was a sensation when completing his £10m move from Internacional, but disappointed at the Beijing Olympics and in pre-season.

    “He has all the quality of a champion, but he must understand that in Italian football if you want to last for 10 years you’ve got to give 100 per cent every single day,” said Milan director Leonardo.

    “He has to run, fight, sweat in training and listen carefully to the advice of Coach and teammates.”

    Pato’s poor fitness has prompted concern, but Leonardo insists it is more an issue of form.

    “He has no physical problems, nor psychological ones. He is happy within the squad and working hard. The directors are very close to him, both in terms of his sporting career and his private life.

    “Pato is a valuable member of the club and we have absolute faith in him.”

    ‘The Duck’ faces increased competition this season with the arrival of Ronaldinho, Andriy Shevchenko and Marco Borriello.

    “I think this will be good for him, just as it will motivate our other strikers,” added Leonardo.

    “We don’t have too many forwards, as Carlo Ancelotti knows how to handle them and Milan, thanks to this wider group, will be able to entertain the crowds and achieve great results.”

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  • avia |  September 7th, 2008 at 5:13 am

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    I just read that Gian and all i can say is WTF!

    Im sure thats all Ducky needs 2 hear aftr Dungas public bashn!

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  • tito |  September 7th, 2008 at 6:46 am

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    “AC Milan star Kaka is open to the prospect of joining Manchester City if the club can achieve their initial target of Champions League qualification, according to his representative.”

    http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=570197&sec=england&cc=5901

    Who was it that kept going on and on about Kaka’s glorious character, commitment, loyalty &tc &tc ad nauseum?

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  • Gianfranco |  September 7th, 2008 at 6:58 am

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    Tito I saw it too, everyone has a price, it’s a shame but it is true. But you can also look at it this way, a guy like Kaka has the type of heard to build a legacy at a club like City. Kaka is the type of player that would gladly take up the challenge of brining City to prominence in International football.

    Tell City to send the check I’ll sign it…

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  • tito |  September 7th, 2008 at 7:00 am

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    I’ll cash it!

    You think Buffon will go?

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  • Gianfranco |  September 7th, 2008 at 7:07 am

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    Buffon, no, he is over 30 and his Juve deal has a way to go. If he were over 35 and Juve was looking to replace, then maybe yes, but I think Gigi has a soul and a heart and both of those rest in Torino.

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  • sam |  September 7th, 2008 at 7:34 am

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    i dont think buffon would ever go unless juve sold him. he didnt leave when they were relegated, man - at the time when any and every club would have loved to have him!
    BTW - did u guys catch the match yday? to all the gattuso bashers (aka roma fans!), he was the only player who did anything in midfield while ddr and pirlo did shit all…
    the defence in the national side is going thru the same crap that milan is as well…
    both teams seem to have an over reliance on the same old players or sub class players just because both coaches dont have the balls to give younger players a chance…

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  • sam |  September 7th, 2008 at 7:36 am

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    and on kaka, i stick to my earlier thought - sell him if we can get a good price, his fitness is anyway a concern and sentiment aint winning us any trophies…imagine if in the last match, we had 2 good defenders - 1 CB and 1 FB - am sure we would have had a different result!

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  • alessio |  September 7th, 2008 at 10:54 am

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    I thought on contrary Gattuso was crap. Freak injury though.

    Keep in mind what Kaka’s agent says is not at all what Kaka’s thinking, could be very different. Agents are usually full of shit.

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  • Gianfranco |  September 7th, 2008 at 11:02 am

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    Alessio agents stir the pot, its what they do, but if their player has absolutely no intention of going to team x they dont start that rumor, their is no reason too…

    As for Gattuso, I have to disagree with you here, he galvanized the mid yesterday which was soft and incapable of winning fifty fifty balls.

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  • shehan |  September 7th, 2008 at 11:14 am

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    2 things to keep in mind when reading bullshit.

    the source, and the source.

    1. the observer, another fucking british tabloid
    2. diego kotscho, he is not involved with kaka’ in any way shape or form.

    so you can come up with 1 conclusion, if both sources are bullshit, then the whole story is bullshit.

    kaka’ is going nowhere, hes on the right road to recovery to play for AC MILAN and nobody else.

    fucking british tabloids. tomorrow it will be messi going to man.citeh, you heard it from me first.

    lippi made a huge gamble with an attack minded squad, and it backfired. gattuso brought balance to the game and did a good job. but lippi’s gamble was very risky and we got very lucky.

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  • alessio |  September 7th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

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    I’ll agree with you that Gattuso shored up our midfield, but frankly Barzagli would have shored up our midfield. I didn’t like the formation. I agree he balanced the midfield significantly but I still think he’s past it for the Azzurri. Perrotta and Materazzi too.

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  • sam |  September 7th, 2008 at 12:47 pm

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    so, is kaka going to play in the friendly on wed?

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  • Gianfranco |  September 7th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

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    I think the latter are past it Alessio, but Gattuso can galvanize and hold a lead after the 60-65th minute. Not saying he has to start, but he is a worthy sub.

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  • alessio |  September 7th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

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    Kinda the role I think ADP should be playing.

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  • sushan[ACM] |  September 8th, 2008 at 2:32 am

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    miln never sell players that love the club, we never sold maldini ,baresi etc and kaka will also and should stay for life. defence can be reinforced in different ways(smart buying, scouting etc) , selling kaka will never give us another players who makes this team run.

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  • Ian |  September 8th, 2008 at 4:03 am

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    I’m with Shehan on the Observer (although its technically a broadsheet, or used to be before a design change a year ago or so). But the main point is this Diego Kotscho - who is this guy. The only thing I’ve ever read that has been attributed to him is “Kaka wants to go to “. I’ve not read any other comment from him - there are none, Google his name to see.

    I believe its one of those British journalists who have to fill some column inches so make up a player’s agent “source” to write some sensationalised story.

    If you ever read anything attributed to Diego Kotscho read: “Made up story trying to sell newspapers”.

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