What Have We Become…

By: Gianfranco | March 28th, 2009

International breaks are always a little tricky for me. Part of me wants to take the weekend off, forget about Milan, and just enjoy world class football. We all know that forgetting about Milan is a monumental task especially considering the circumstances of our season and the goal to finish in the top four, but as I sit here and something doesn’t feel all that right.

I don’t plan on sitting here and ranting for hours about Lippi and his pig headed complacency and the Azzurri, but as I look at the roster it hits me like a ton of bricks. Today may be the first time in my recent memory that an Azzurri squad is put onto the field sans a Milan man on the pitch. Sure Pirlo and Zambro are called up and may get the starting nod, but if not, we have really a hit a low point as a club and to some extent as a country. More as a club, because the player’s are not on roster to be called up…

Again, I am not going in depth here about Cassano, or about DDR potentially playing Saturday while being suspended for Roma. The point I am trying to make here is that as a club we have lost the plan, gone are the days where Azzurri and Milan were synonymous and symbiotic, and if you weren’t from a red and black club you were from a black and white club. Now don’t get me wrong I love seeing guys like Quags and Toto on the roster, it shows how far Serie A has come, but as an Italian Milan fan I am disappointed. People say it is always country before club, but the loss of identity is hard for me to swallow at the moment.

So today I will watch the Azzurri, but this evening I will root for the United States….



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  • Mike |  March 30th, 2009 at 1:54 am

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    lamagica the insecure tool is back! all hail!
    I’d love to stay and laugh at your idiocy, but I have surgery.
    wish me luck guys!

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  • gianfranco |  March 30th, 2009 at 3:09 am

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    mike best of luck, hope all goes well!

    Lamagica for once you have said something coherent, intelligent, and of value. Of course I believe if Buffon was out for 3 months and had no game time that the NT should trust in Amelia or even call up Abbiati to take his place. Gigi would probably say the same!! No sense if starting a rusty GK when you have solid backups to fill the void, it makes no sense to put the NT at such a disadvantage, and even Alessio would most likely agree and he sees Buffon play week in and week out. As for DDR, he is a liability right now to his club and even his country, one tantrum, one red card, is all it takes to follow in the footsteps of his hero and leave Italy with nothing…those are NOT the actions of a superstar in the making…

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  • gianfranco |  March 30th, 2009 at 3:12 am

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    Pat, you are right, just in this post even Fet was saying to sell Borriello to fund the arrival of Kanoute. Now that plan I CAN NOT AND WILL NOT support, Kanoute is OK, but if you are going to spend the funds there are better investments out there. I think the issue in Italy is that the talent pool of players is not as strong as it once was from the boot, and the good players are already locked up at Juve, Samp, or even Inter with Santon and Balotelli. Thats why it is important to bring home the italian youngsters, get them into the squad and hope for the best. Abate, Paloschi, but also invest in good Italian defenders, there are a few out there. The Italian core can return, but it has to be a commitment from the top down. An Italian manager is also a must…

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  • sam |  March 30th, 2009 at 3:15 am

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    how come no one is talking about pirlo’s performance in the match? i was so pleased to see him doing those great passes and not in his normal deep position either….
    also, cannavaro looked quite shaky and i dont think i would want to add another 30+ defender in the milan squad even if he comes on a free transfer, esp if he’s going thru a bad run of form

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  • sam |  March 30th, 2009 at 3:16 am

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    and looking at what is happening with our youngsters, am sure santon is thanking his stars he got the milan letter 2 days late….and now has the chance to be a starter at inter rather than warming the bench in milan

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  • Gianfranco |  March 30th, 2009 at 4:14 am

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    Sam, Pirlo did look great, which is a testament to the player because he didnt have Rino alongside him and still performed. Montenegro also seems a little less frenzied on our around the ball so Pirlo had ample time and space to do what he does best. I am with you 100% on Canna, thanks but no thanks, I am sure Napoli will welcome home with open arms, and sending Santacroce this way should make room for Canna just fine!

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  • lamagica |  March 30th, 2009 at 8:54 am

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    “he is a liability right now to his club and even his country, one tantrum, one red card”

    care to take inventory of how many red cards and “tantrums” he’s had in his career or would that undermine your ability to think things through more thoughtfully? i mean, how would you then be able to make such brilliant statements that he is the second coming of totti?

    “leave Italy with nothing”

    you obviously must be referring to euro 04 here…the tournament where he missed header after header in the games against sweden and denmark and then managed to fix the 2-2 result that knocked the azzurri out. man, if only ambrosini was there to save the day…..

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  • lamagica |  March 30th, 2009 at 9:07 am

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    so tell me, gianfranco, what exactly happened once buffon returned to the nt after recently recovering from injury this season? i bet you think if de sanctis, abbiatti or amelia were in goal instead, they would have saved that gift robinho got from pirlo, right?

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  • Gianfranco |  March 30th, 2009 at 9:38 am

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    lamagica, I hate to do this but I had to delete one of your comments, it was quite simply disgusting and I wont stand for it. Not to mention it was defaming towards Mike, who simply asked for well wishes, not grotesque child like behavior.

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  • Gianfranco |  March 30th, 2009 at 9:48 am

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    my apologies for anyone who read it and was offended, as for your response you have only cut and pasted snippets of my quotes to work for your own purposes which is just fine and usually your MO in the first place.

    DDR has six red cards in his career and two this season, compare him to another future star like say Cesc Fabergas who has more appearances for Arsenal in less time, who only has one. I will say that DDR plays a more tackle happy position on the pitch, but that doesnt excuse lapses of judgement or tirades at officials. Simply change my “leaves Italy with nothing,” to “leaves Roma with nothing” and my point is even more glaringly clear. He is your savior surely if plays the second leg against Roma you are clearly through to the next round, of course you are he is DDR! Foregone conclusion my mistake.

    I dont feel I have to further discuss the Buffon point, that goal was not his fault and I never even implied that it was, you are muckraking in that regard and I will leave at that.

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  • Gianfranco |  March 30th, 2009 at 9:51 am

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    *against Arsenal, in Roma

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  • lamagica |  March 30th, 2009 at 10:16 am

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    rather than talking out of you a-hole as per typical, try to make a valid comparison of players (rather than a convenient one that makes no sense). also, try and research the actual facts and stats before you let out yet another brainfart. given that you managed a kernel of acknowledgment that they are two completely different players and have different roles on their respective teams, explain to me how many red cards are due to “tirades”, which you seem so hell-bent on magnifying. i see you’ve dropped the insistent cassano analogy.

    of course you’re ducking the buffon issue. how could you live with yourself being wrong? i also see you cant manage to keep your own original words in context – who exactly were you referring to again with the comment on “leaves italy with nothing” in the earlier post? was it vieri?

    also, i’m waiting on your response to maro. the polite thing to do would be to respond unless, of course, you have no other grounds to base an opinion on other than hate. i realise now that the great ambrosini has been left in the dust (about 4 years too late thanks to donadoni), you have little else to use against de rossi other than taking your usual blanks you keep shooting.

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  • lamagica |  March 30th, 2009 at 10:29 am

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    i’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that rino gattuso has a worse disciplinary record than andrea pirlo after playing a similar amount of games. as a result, he should never have been considered for the azzurri and lippi would be a bonehead to consider him in the future. instead, the future should be ambrosini.

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  • Gianfranco |  March 30th, 2009 at 10:40 am

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    lamagica first and foremost I dont have to respond to anyone, you or Maro, quite simply I choose to in an effort to foster discussion which is virtually impossible with you becasue you miss the point on the broad idea and then fixate yourself to a simpler idea and never leave it. Read your last comment, you are now talking about Ambro, Rino, and Pirlo, when this simple discussion began, brace yourself, do you remember what we are even talking about anymore!?, based on the idea of a player getting called up for NT if he was suspedended/serving a suspension for his club. You have lost the plan man and you deflate me and all the other readers in the process. I mean historically whenever you come to this blog you kill off comments like some kind of plague, people write you off, they dont even want to engage in a discussion with you, and me on the otherhand I give you the benefit of the doubt time and time and again only to be consistently reminded of your inappropriate chilidsh behavior, I am done here, and quite frankly with you…my apologies if you are offended, but you will probably just read this twist it into your sweet madness and turn it right back around…because that is what you do as you proved all along this post…

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  • maro |  March 30th, 2009 at 10:44 am

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    Stop deflecting, gianfranco, and give us some answers.

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  • maro |  March 30th, 2009 at 10:44 am

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    I’d hate to think it’s more than emotion you’re choked up with, after all.

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  • Ro |  March 30th, 2009 at 11:55 am

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    Good God! Don’t you guys have anything better to do?!?

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  • alessio |  March 30th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

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    They are Roma fans, of course not.

    Lamagica, it’s not the amount of cards as much as how he’s getting it. De Rossi is losing his cool, that’s just the stupidest way to get yourself sent off. God forbid, he decides to elbow someone in the face again, boom, no DDR at the World Cup. It’s not like there isn’t precedent. But he’s learning from Francesco “Vaffanculo arbitro” Totti, the best.

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  • lamagica |  March 30th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

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    gianfranco, i really think you’d have a good case against your parents if you were to sue them. they should be held accountable for fostering an environment for you in which little to no critical thinking is involved not to mention your inability to suggest or even comprehend an analogous situation when one is presented back to you.

    your inability to respond to maro’s pointed questions is a huge testament to this as well. after all, how hard is it to clarify your thoughts when someone asks? no doubt it’s pretty hard if those original ‘thoughts’ are based on nothing more than blind hate that you try to conveniently package up as “discussion”. it seems to really get difficult for you when people call you out on your bullshit (much like some of your fellow milanisti have also done with you here). you need to really come to terms with the fact that, more often than not, you spew out tripe rather than thoughtful opinions and should not be so surprised when they are met with ‘childish’ responses.

    also, no need to apologise since i have nothing to be offended by. let’s be clear, i dont come here to engage in meaningful discussion with you. that would be equivalent of noam chomsky trying to engage in meaningful discourse with the teletubbies. i just like to come here to question your attempted inflammatory comments which i am seemingly entitled to do when you post your typical shite.

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  • lamagica |  March 30th, 2009 at 3:45 pm

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    …that is what the comments section is for, after all.

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  • patcook |  March 30th, 2009 at 4:50 pm

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    I wish lamagica lived in China so the government could stop lamagica from posting

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  • Gianfranco |  March 30th, 2009 at 6:42 pm

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    Lami, if I may, you just don’t seem to get it this is my blog and I never once package It as fact which is you first mistake. Second I answer to me that’s it, not you or your pal maro. Lastly you visiting the blog regardless of ur opinion is good for traffic so say what you want everyone ignores you anyway then when you incesantly check back to see when you can respond you keep adding hits, so thanks for the traffic bud and the constructive crtitiscm, point duly noted. Now to work on that suit of my parents…

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  • lamagica |  March 30th, 2009 at 7:55 pm

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    if it helps you out with the hits, then that is a fortuitous consequence for you but completely irrelevant to my purpose. i’m not really sure why i should care about your traffic but i’m happy to inadvertently contribute to your path to punditry stardom.

    once again, i am finding it hard to understand your line of thought – may i be so bold as to point out to you that i am clearly not getting ignored since my comments are directed at you and you seem to be responding to each of my comments, despite, ironically, you claiming to being done with me. again, your inability to make that conclusion on your own should be additional ammunition for that potential law suit.

    actually, i think you’re just a bit scared of big bad maro and the fact that he’s subtly laid the groundwork in his sarcastic-laden comments to underscore your ineptitude should you choose to engage him. your fear is that it would be done in front of your loving and caring ‘audience’ / cyber bodyguards.

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  • Ro |  March 30th, 2009 at 8:45 pm

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    Listen up Lamagica and all of your romanisti posse! I’m sick of coming here and having to sift through your comments! I’m not here to read your ranting and raving of something that you don’t like! If you have complaints go back to your little holes and complain to yourself! You all seem to be the one with the problems. I don’t see anyone else complaining about Gian or his writing, except of the occasional banter. He’s a human being and we are all entitled to our opinions. If you don’t agree with what he’s saying take it someplace else, because none of us care. We want to talk about Milan and our players! Not to you or about what you think! Capisce?

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  • Malih |  March 31st, 2009 at 6:20 am

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    oh… c’mon guys, lamagica looks like he’s had a hard time at his daily life, give him a break, and pretend that we hear him,
    he just has to throw it somewhere, that happens to be us… good therapy lamagica?

    oh, i think the reason you find it hard to understand the thought is mostly because we find it hard to understand yours with all those personal attacks you throw.

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