The Aftermath

By: Gianfranco | June 24th, 2008

Disclaimer: If you want non-biased, coherent, level headed assessment of the Azzurri performance at Euro 08 than you may want to come somewhere else. But if you can handle some harsh criticism and soap box ranting specifically aimed at ToniNoGol, Roman Midfieler’s, and anyone else in a 50 mile radius of the Azzurri than read on. My apologies in advance if you disagree with any of my opinions…

The first thing I want to do is discuss the spot kick that in this case determined the outcome. The shooter has the advantage here, and when a goalie saves it don’t ever praise the goalie, scold the shooter. Remember you are expected to score here. With that out of the way DiNatale and DDR screwed up, why not get ADP to shoot sooner is beyond me!?

I have been fairly uncritical of Donadoni in his tenure as Azzurri coach because the expectations put on him with a fairly old squad, following a glorious 06 run are/were extremely unreasonable. I did not think this group of 23 is all that strong, in fact with the form of many of these players coming into this tournament, the actual performance of these players was not all that far off, especially with the likes of Rino, Pirlo, DiNatale, and Borriello cooling off at the end of the Serie A campaign. I will say that his brash honesty, playing his system during qualifications, and choosing whoever was in form was all lost after the Dutch disaster, and his lack of intestinal fortitude to stick to his guns really made upset. I would have benched Toni in minute 46 of game one, and part of me wants me to believe he would have too, but his lambasting would have been longer and harder than anything he is going to face in the coming days. That team was built to work around “Europe’s Best Point Man” no idea who anointed Toni with that title but the ESPN folks were using quite liberally, little did the team and coach know that Toni would go non-existent when his team needed him most.

Another painfully apparent thing that I saw yesterday was Cassano seems to have no connection with Toni or anyone else really. This team lacked that gel that was so successful in 06. Lippi got a lot of credit for 06 but the squad was in sync, motivated, and on the top of their game. You could have put Roberto Mancini in charge of that bunch and they would have won the World Cup, they had something that no Italian team I have ever watched in my young life had, and that was hunger, those guys looked like world beaters and no matter who was on the pitch they made the pass and picked each other up time and time again. It is this fact alone that makes me think Lippi is not the answer to take over again because this team needs young blood and new look, and the fact that Lippi has been “lurking” in the shadows added even more unneeded pressure to an already impossible job. Best thing for the Azzurri is if Lippi gets job elsewhere, be it club or country, and someone like Casiraghi, Spalletti or Carletto are brought in. I am not opposed to sticking with Donadoni, but the real man for the job for me is and always has been Fabio Cappello. To bad that isn’t going to happen anytime soon.

I want to get into player performances’ a bit here, and would like to first thank Buffon for keeping this team in these games and playing at his usually high level of play. For me the stud of this tournament was Chiellini. He may have hurt Canna, but he did make Canna proud and saved many a ball and tackle yesterday and the games prior. Never have I seen a player with the perfect blend of Canna and Nesta until I watched Chiellini as closely as I have at this tournament. I have told Alessio many times that I am envious of Juve’s young Italian talent and Chiellini for me takes the cake. The potential thought of him in Red and Black probably makes Juve fans cringe, but for me it would be a superb signing. No other player really stuck out for me, but I will say that Grosso and Camo’s hard work was greatly appreciated in a mix of players who at times didn’t seem all that willing to work or get themselves open for anyone.

Can it be said that yesterday’s game lacked the creativity of Pirlo? Sure it can. Can it be said that yesterday’s game lacked the intensity of Rino? Sure it can. But last time I checked this is a roster of 23 players who are supposed to be Italy’s best and brightest and should be capable of a victory regardless of who is playing. But yesterday this was not the case. I would like to start first and foremost with Perotta who for me yesterday was abysmal and non existent, the Don folded under the pressure of the media and played the Roman trio, and the end result was the same as the Milan trio, a loss. A loss is loss if it is 3-0, 10-0, 1-0, or PK’s.

Slightly behind Perotta was Aquilani, whose future may very well be bright, but his magic trick of disappearing should earn him Houdini status in no time. There were times yesterday that it looked like Italy were two players down with no one in the tre-quartista space to help Cassano and Toni, wasn’t that why Aquilani and Perotta were included, isn’t that the reason that DDR is so special, he attacks as well as he defends?

I want to take a minute here to bash DDR, and disagree if you like, but I want to make this nice and clear. He may be very talented and he may enjoy a great career, but to think that his play can save this team or any team for that matter is arrogant. He is a role player, and his distinction as a number ten is incorrect. A lot of young players get tagged as special, full of potential and talent, but these are the players that pick up their games and lead their teams regardless of their age or the stage. Maybe the Azzurri were so far gone that they were beyond leading, but one does not need to look all that far to see the difference between potential talent, and actual talent with Cesc Fabergas vs. DDR. When Cesc came in yesterday Spain was alive and attacking and giving Italy fits in the back, again thank god for Chiellini the only answer to Cesc.

In ’98 the Azzurri had another Roman defensive midfielder who was 27 and full of potential. That same player missed a PK then and repeated his mistake in 2000 against the Dutch, but it was not as costly. That man is Luigi Di Biaggo, and we all know what happened with his career. All I am trying to say is that titles, honors, and praise are earned, not granted. Until a player like DDR, Cassano, or Aquilani earn it and lead their team to victories on the biggest stage, they are just talented, not superstars. For anyone who believes I am being biased here, any of the Milan fans will attest to the fact that I am just as critical of Pato and any other youngster in the Red and Black.

Two years is a long way away, and the potential of this squad is still strong, but a change will need to be made. The majority of the roster will be long gone save Pirlo, DeRossi, Chiellini and possible select few. One can only hope that veterans like Rino and Zambro are replaced effectively and the likes of Giovinco, Nocerino, and Osvaldo can usher Italy into a new era.

This pretty much sums it up for me…



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  • Gianfranco |  June 25th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

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    Thats why Boruc was a beast, he had it all…

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  • adam |  June 25th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

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    I agree with you on this part “. A GK needs to step in, be rock solid, and not shit his pants in the CL. Loris may very well be talented, and he certainly looks it, but no one knows how the kid will react on the pressure filled euro nights.” But given the number of mistakes made by both Dida and Kalac this season in both Serie A and UCL, I dont think Lloris could of been any worse. Every player needs time to gel into his new team (esp. a big club) and its best for them to make that transition while they’re still young. Look at Kaka, Anelka(Arsenal), Henry, and Sergio Ramos. When players get older its hard for them to adjust to a new system like Anelka(Chelsea), Shevcheko, and Henry. Players are easiest for a coach to mold when they are young and teams need to take advantage of that.

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  • gianfranco |  June 25th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

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    I agree with you on youth and coaching, and you are spot on in your analysis, but can we really trust Milan to nurture a young talent, you saw what happened to Gourcuff. Lets just hope Pato and any other youngster they get, they do it right like Kaka and Sheva.

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  • JP |  June 25th, 2008 at 6:43 pm

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    Gian, regarding keepers: keep in mind Milan is not participating in the CL this year. The UEFA cup would be an ideal international stage for young players to gain experience. I was looking forward to seeing Gourcuff, Pato, and Paloschi lighting up the UEFA cup, but Gourcuff has been removed (sadly) and it looks like Paloschi is going to be loaned out too.

    As far as experience keepers go, there is alot out there for Milan to choose from. I will never understand why we didn’t make a move for Amelia, or why, despite being linked with him in both Spanish and Italian media, we didn’t move for Diego Lopez (Villareal). Add to those names Boruc, Handanovic, and Sampdoria’s keeper (I can’t remember his name) and Milan actually had a wealth of options to go for. And for a club which surprisingly has one of the lowest debts in Europe, I don’t understand why Milan is ignoring these players and instead focusing on a 31 mil. purchase for a striker who had 1 good year. Bringing back 1-season wonder Borriello is OK because he was inexpensive and already part of the Milan system, but he wasn’t 31 million euros.

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  • Fetyani |  June 25th, 2008 at 7:42 pm

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    Happy B-Day to Il Capitano Paolo, 40 years old.

    from 86 to 09, see you next season Paolo, hopefully lifting the Scudetto.

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  • MAD |  June 25th, 2008 at 8:00 pm

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    I am just talking nonsense here, since I haven’t seen five “soccer” games in my whole, entire life (:)) but Milan has one more goalkeeper than you thought you did as of the other night when the deals for co-owned players was taken care of:

    Marco Varaldi (p) comp. Inter/Milan: compartecipazione risolta a favore del Milan

    Inter and Milan had two players co-owned. You guys went for the goalkeeper. We went for the midfielder, at least I think he is a midfielder.

    Okay, I’m off before someone else decides to malign the worthiness of my opinions and my temerity in having a thought of my own.

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  • MAD |  June 25th, 2008 at 8:36 pm

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    Ooops, I missed one more. There was a defensive player that was co-owned… he also went to Milan.

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  • romabaha |  June 25th, 2008 at 10:20 pm

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    Gianfranco, that is not harsh at all. I expected more from you, since I read some of my fellow romanistas opinions.
    Roma’s midfield is inexperienced for such occasions and I understand donadoni’s decision to stick to his guns. Milan’s mid looked tired and out of ideas but the coach did not have any other options but to use these players. The defense was not in its full potential, and when you put into the equasion Toni’s lack of scoring, it is clear Italy was not ready for this tournament.

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  • moka |  June 25th, 2008 at 11:38 pm

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    Adebayor move 80% done.. and that’s coming from his agent, not Galliani.. :D

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  • gianfranco |  June 26th, 2008 at 2:36 am

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    Guys and Gals, I just want to say how appreciative I am of these comments, and how smoothly and well argued they have been.

    I went to the Roma page to add my thoughts and this is what I got: ( i will say their was some good points raised in return though)

    “gianfranco, you just love flashing that paragraph around, don’t you?
    Now if you mentioned anything about football, we could maybe take it seriously.”

    “Gianfranco.. You really are a tool.. I don’t know what the hell your problem with Roma is but get the hell out.. Nobody wants your negativity and useless remarks here..”

    I am glad we are able to entertain thier ideas, and argue their points here at least.

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  • gianfranco |  June 26th, 2008 at 3:01 am

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    MAD, do you have any more details, I havent been able to dig anything up?

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  • ursus arctos |  June 26th, 2008 at 3:33 am

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    There is a list of all of the comproprieta situations on the Lega Calcio website: http://www.lega-calcio.it/comun/0708/partecipazioni2008-2009.pdf

    You can just search for club and player you are looking for. There are several hundred players involved (many of whom even diehard tifosi will never have heard of), and it gives one a real sense of just how many players the bigger clubs have an interest in at any one time.

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  • Gianfranco |  June 26th, 2008 at 5:18 am

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    ursus, great link. Grazie mille

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  • alessio |  June 26th, 2008 at 5:31 am

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    Gianfranco, I think given the climate, it was not a good idea for Lippi to stay. Remember that whole Calciopoli scandal? Even though he wasn’t our coach for the “tainted” years, he was clearly associated with Juventus. A lot of people thought he (and San Gigi) should have quit before the World Cup. To move on or get a fresh start, he knew the FIGC needed to appoint someone not associated with the scandal, they just happened to appoint someone not associated with anything.

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  • Gianfranco |  June 26th, 2008 at 7:26 am

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    Alessio, its a different way of looking at it for me at least, the whole Calciopoli thing is still a relative unknowm for me, and I have a few books on the issue that I plan on tearing through, so hopefully its clearer. We should find out today if Lippi is back.

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  • Gianfranco |  June 26th, 2008 at 7:29 am

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    MAD, just hope you know that it wasn’t Milan fans lambasting you, and Interista or not you are always welcome. OK, maybe not always, but you catch my drift…

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  • ursus arctos |  June 26th, 2008 at 8:01 am

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    Gianfranco, alessio is absolutely right about the climate before the 06 World Cup; it was quite surreal and even continued through the group stages.

    For those interested, here are the official results of all of the comproprieta situations that “went to the envelopes”: http://www.lega-calcio.it/comun/0708/buste08_09.pdf

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  • MAD |  June 26th, 2008 at 9:14 am

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    GF, don’t worry I am fully aware of from whence the wacko factor is from. Thanks for the kind invitation, I will honor it by exclusively posting on the Inter boards during derby week :).

    For what it worth, I thought it was refreshing to see another view point discussed around here that challenged the “propaganda” if you get my meaning…

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  • Samuel |  June 26th, 2008 at 9:59 am

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    i didn’t know we had so many co-ownerships with inter, very interesting i think picking the defender over the young midfielder is more promising though we are in desperate need of young defenders. i hope he’s a left back! and on naturing young players i think we’ve done alright with the youngsters, for ancelotti its all about confidence and recognizing talent and potential. like pato he views him as a star from the beginning gave him chances and the little brazilian proved himself. and with gourcuff ancelotti thinks he hasn’t made the most of his oppurtunities, and with the lack of chances he was given last season its clear he doesn’t trust him.

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  • Gianfranco |  June 26th, 2008 at 10:18 am

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    Samuel, i dont believe Milan has a plan for youngesters, like some clubs, so they handle each one differently. There is nothing wrong with that, but it produces varying results.

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  • MAD |  June 26th, 2008 at 10:35 am

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    I am very happy with Inter’s youth organization. We have a very good primavera squad where we got Super Mario from, we are seasoning Aquafresca (who we now own completely) and we are still in co-ownership of Andreolli (Probable heir to Materazzi, who we will get, if we really want him). Co-ownership is very important to the big clubs because there isn’t any other way to get young players time on the field. The clubs have to be constantly scouring the lower ranks for hidden talent.

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  • Gianfranco |  June 26th, 2008 at 11:20 am

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    MAD do you think Mourinho will have a place in the squad for both Super Mario and Freshwater? What about Cruz and Company? Seems crowded, but Mourinho has a way with young players if he likes them, like Mikel and Kalou at Chelsea.

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  • MAD |  June 26th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

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    I think that Cruz could have a spot on any team he wants, including Inter because he’s such a total package as a forward.

    I think Crespo is gone and I think that Suazo may not fit in the current climate… but I could be wrong here. There is such random speculative news about formations and transfers that I am often not sure what to think.

    Super Mario isn’t going anywhere (without a huge transfer fee) because he fits as the lone center or in partnership up front.

    And Robert, my own bias here, will be a huge addition to Inter when he “arrives”.

    Ibra is Ibra. He can go alone or he can partner up. I think he can also play just behind the attack, if you accept that he’s never going to drift back to play defense.

    I do know that last season we needed every one of those forwards due to injury. Look, Inter will be playing for defense of the Scudetto, Champions League and I think Mo’ is going to actually try for the Coppa just because I heard he likes trophies.

    So, four strikers, not including Aquafresca who will not be there this year, but including Suazo. Sounds about right, I guess.

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  • Gianfranco |  June 26th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

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    Well Mancini fits Mourinho’s system as a winger, but you raise a great point on Super Mario and his ability to work both ways. Ibra is the intriguing guy for me and I wonder how he will fit in, or if he will at all. Send him this way if he is not happy, he is the perfect partner for Kaka behind the striker!

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  • tito |  June 27th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

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    Apparently reuters agrees with your assessment of DDR:

    http://football.uk.reuters.com/blogs/article.php?bbPostId=Cz27XIMeqg1QACz93w3Ge5o6tQCz4lCPbj6WsRMBDQk339Qhkga&bbParentWidgetId=B8kBlq7de4RR1adLxAVr95a

    They’ve voted him to their “Flop XI” of the tournament. A virtual team fittingly led by Luca Toni, of course, and rather uncharitably coached by Donadoni. This seems a bit unfair as I believe Raymond Domenech was fully deserving of that particular honor…

    Their comment about DDR:

    “Daniele De Rossi was supposed to be the purring engine at the heart of the Italian midfield but instead operated like a Vespa on the wrong fuel and walks in.”

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